Saturday, 6 October 2012

5 Terror Suspects Flown to US from Britain - Voice of America [getdailynow.blogspot.com]

5 Terror Suspects Flown to US from Britain - Voice of America [getdailynow.blogspot.com]

Question by usualchef: What the *ell happened to the "Wall of Separation between Church and State"? Why is everyone blathering on about "God bless America," "God Damn America," and the like. We are a secular state. Go in your room and close the door for your relationship with God. We as a country have no official religion, nor should we, nor should any religious test be required for public service. Not my words, but the words of Jesus and the Founders of America. Best answer for What the *ell happened to the "Wall of Separation between Church and State"?:

Answer by iamct01
One of the cores of conservatism is to stand by the father figure that knows best and attack anyone who might present evidence that might weaken the strong protectionist know best image.

Answer by Samwise
It's not about Christianity. They don't care about the references to God; what they care about is reverence for America. It's about making jingoistic patriotism into a national religion, something like the state religion practiced by the Roman Empire back when they were persecuting Christians. I expect that religion, if it gains control of the government, with persecute real Christians and atheists with equal relish.

Answer by gomanyes562
So what makes you think that "God bless America" makes an official religion?

Answer by momfordubya
Separation of church of state was intended to keep the government from forcing religion on the people of this country, as was done in England (which is why the founders of this country ended up here in the first place!). It's intent was to allow people to freely practice the religion of their choosing, not to make sure no one ever says God Bless You when you sneeze!!

Answer by jewels15
Not Jesus, read the Bible if your going to talk about it. God has always been in this country. Where are you from? Have you ever looked at your american money your spending read what it says IN GOD WE TRUST! READ THE BIBLE. Start with the book of revelations.God Bless

Answer by robgently
It's been under constant attack by those who'd like to turn America into a Theocracy. Usually it's the same kind of nutjobs who complained most mindlessly about the Catholics Corruption when they had the self same power, and totally missing the point about what power does to those in control. They seem to feel that somehow they will be immune to corruption despite massive evidence to the contrary.

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Two U.S. planes have flown radical Muslim preacher Abu Hamza al-Masri and four other suspected terrorists to the United States, hours after Britain's High Court cleared the way for their extradition.

The planes departed a Royal Air Force base immediately after the British High Court rejected last-minute appeals by Hamza and the others.  The five had raised legal questions about human rights and prison conditions they expected to face in the United States.  In rejecting the appeals, the British court cited an "overwhelming public interest" in seeing the extraditions carried out.

Hamza is wanted on U.S. charges that include conspiring to set up a terrorist training camp in the northeastern U.S. state of Oregon.  He also is accused of helping abduct 16 hostages, including two Americans, in Yemen in 1998.  Four people died in the hostage taking incident.

Two other suspects aboard the flights, Adel A bdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz, are wanted for their alleged roles in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in east Africa in 1998.  Al-Fawwaz faces more than 260 counts of murder.  

Both British and European courts had earlier ruled in favor of the extraditions, triggering the appeals that were rejected Friday.

Outside the courthouse, Ahmad's father, Ashfaq Ahmad, decried the ruling, saying it would be "forever remembered as a shameful chapter in the history of Britain."

"The system has let me down in a manner more befitting of a third world country than one of the world's oldest democracies," he said.

Ashfaq Ahmad also told reporters that while he now fears for his son's well-being, the final ruling came as no surprise.

U.S. officials have charged two others aboard the flights, Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan,  in connection with a website used to provide support to terrorists.

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