AP Exclusive: US car was targeted in Mexico ambush [getdailynow.blogspot.com]
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MEXICO CITY â€"  A senior U.S. official says there is strong circumstantial evidence that Mexican federal police who fired on a U.S. Embassy vehicle, wounding two CIA officers, were working for organized crime in a targeted assassination attempt.
Meanwhile, a Mexican official with knowledge of the case confirmed on Tuesday that prosecutors are investigating whether the Beltran Leyva Cartel was behind the Aug. 24 ambush.
The Mexican official said that is among several lines of investigation into the shooting of an armored SUV that was clearly marked with diplomatic license plates on a rural road near Cuernavaca south of Mexico City. Federal police, at times battered by allegations of infiltration and corruption by drug cartels, have said the shooting was a case of mistaken identity as officers were looking into the kidnapping of a government employee in that area.
"That's not a 'We're trying to shake down a couple people for a traffic violation sort of operation. That's a 'We are specifically trying to kill the people in this vehicle'," a U.S. official familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press. "This is not a 'Whoops, we got the wrong people.' "
Photos of the gray Toyota SUV, a model known to be used by Drug Enforcement Administration agents and other U.S. Embassy employees working in Mexico, showed it riddled with heavy gunfire. The U.S. Embassy called the attack an "ambush."
When asked by the AP if the Mexican federal police officers involved in the shooting were tied to organized crime, the U.S. official said, "The circumstantial evidence is pretty damn strong."
Both the U.S. and Mexican officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the diplomatic issue.
A federal police on Tuesday maintained the position that their agents fired on the vehicle by mistake, thinking it belonged to a band of kidnappers they were pursuing, according to a spokesman who was not authorized to speak on the record.
The U.S. State Department declined to discuss details.
"We will not comment on an ongoing investigation," said William Ostick, a spokesman. "This is a matter of great significance to both our countries and we will continue to cooperate with Mexican authorities in their investigation."
The Mexican official said one line of investigation is that members of the Beltran Leyva Cartel were interested in attacking the people in the car because some of their lookouts had seen them passing through the area and presumed they were investigating the cartel. It's possible they didn't know they were Americans.
The rural road near Cuernavaca where the attack took place is known territory of the remnants of the Beltran Leyvas, a once-powerful cartel now run by Hector Beltran Leyva since the Navy killed his brother, drug lord Arturo Beltran Leyva, in Cuernavaca in late 2009. Beltran Leyva was once aligned with Mexico's powerful cartel, Sinaloa, headed by fugitive drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman. But the groups split in 2008 and continued government hits on Beltran Leyva leadership since then have splintered that cartel into small gangs warring for the area.
The CIA officers were heading down a dirt road to the military installation with a Mexican navy captain in the vehicle when a carload of gunmen opened fire and gave chase. The embassy SUV tried to escape, but three other cars joined the original vehicle in pursuing it down the road, according to the original navy statement. Occupants of all four vehicles fired.
"This is somebody with a powerful automatic weapon just unloading an entire clip, reloading, and continuing to fire at that same impact point, clearly with the intention of penetrating the armor and presumably killing those who are inside," the U.S. official told the AP.
Surveillance cameras in the area recorded two civilian vehicles chasing the U.S. Embassy SUV, the Mexican official said. So far Mexican officials have said only federal police fired on the SUV.
The two CIA officers received non-life-threatening wounds and have returned to the United States. The navy captain was uninjured and radioed the navy for help.
Twelve officers have been detained in the case and are being held under a form of house arrest pending possible charges, and 51 officers have testified in the case. The FBI, which is leading the investigation for the U.S., has been in on interviews of the detainees. At FBI headquarters in Washington, spokesman Paul Bresson declined to comment.
A Mexican federal police spokesman said last month that the officers may not have noticed the diplomatic plates. The official said police focused on the unusual sight of a bulletproof sport utility vehicle traveling at high speed on a rural road, not on the car's distinctive diplomatic plates.
But Raul Benitez, a security expert at Mexico's National Autonomous University, said Mexican military sources have told him that "the attack was not an error," and "the objective was to annihilate the three passengers in the car."
"The same car with the same people had been going up and back (to the marine training camp) for a week, so perhaps some lookout who worked for drug traffickers informed the police, or the Beltrans" about the vehicle, Benitez said.
He said the federal police must have known that they were attacking a diplomatic vehicle.
"I don't think we're yet in a position to say definitively who did it, who paid them and why they did it," the U.S. official said. "We have been assured repeatedly in private and in public that the government of Mexico will investigate this to the end and provide a final answer as to what occurred, and I think our posture at this stage is we take them at their word."
Mexico's federal police agency, which President Felipe Calderon calls the most professional and highly trained of the country's law enforcement, has been hit with allegations of wrongdoing in recent months. In August, all 348 officers assigned to security details at the Mexico City International Airport were replaced in the wake of a June shooting of three federal policemen, who were killed by a fellow officer believed to be involved in trafficking drugs through the terminal.
Ten federal police officers were arrested in the northern border city of Ciudad Juarez in 2011, accused of running an extortion ring.
Attacks on diplomatic personnel in Mexico were once considered rare, but the CIA attack was the third shooting incident in two years.
In 2011, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent was killed and another wounded in a drug gang shooting in northern Mexico.
A drug-gang shooting in 2010 in the border city of Ciudad Juarez killed a U.S. consulate employee, her husband and another man.
That could be the result of the break-up of larger cartels, said Andrew Selee of the Washington-based Mexico Institute, noting that historically drug traffickers didn't want the attention that a hit on U.S. personnel normally brings.
"The lower level leaders in the cartels are making decisions the more seasoned leaders wouldn't," he said. "It's the lower level leaders who feel empowered to order hits."
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Associated Press writers Mark Stevenson in Mexico City and Elliot Spagat in San Diego contributed to this report.
More AP Exclusive: US car was targeted in Mexico ambush Issues Question by dragonfly9151974: What do people mean by the phrase "preparing students for the real world"? What makes people think that home schoolers who have the whole world as their classroom aren't living in the "real world"? Homeschoolers actually have more opportunities to meet new people and from a variety of backgrounds and more time to spend on social interactions. Here are some of the activities home schoolers participate in: Scouting, 4-H, Pioneer clubs, youth groups, volunteer activities, home schooling groups, community service groups, community sports, music lessons, dance lessons, gymnastics, cheerleading, community theatre, art classes, apprenticeships, part-time jobs, internships, mission trips, summer camps, community college classes, dances, debate teams, community and home school group based clubs... I could go on, but why bother. Best answer for What do people mean by the phrase "preparing students for the real world"?:
Answer by April
The "real world" is where you have to support yourself and be responsible for yourself. The real world is where you have to interact with other adults on a daily basis and have the communication skills to do so. The real world is where you have developed the knowledge to succeed in public life. Anybody who still lives with their parents or hasn't finished school usually hasn't developed all of these skills. A lot of it has to do with just growing up, but a lot of it is what we learn through home AND school during that process.
Answer by Wot Shines Like Diamonds?Ruby =P
At school, students get more opportunities to communicate and deal with strangers and make new friends. Being in a school environment allows them to learn how to live with people one does not familiar with or to befriend with strangers. If you are a home schooler, then the only thing you can do is to study your textbooks and take the exams. You have no chance to experience what I have said above.
Answer by sarah may
I found that when I was home schooled I lacked social stimulation... So what they may mean is that... when you get into the real world (College, a job...) you might have problems adapting to different people (people who you might have been sheltered from if you are like most homeschoolers) You might not know how to stand up for yourself with peer pressure. You might be rather annoying because you lack social skills... I have been home schooled, attended a private school, and been to a public school... I found that being home schooled denied me of so many great experiences. I found that private schools didn't give me the "best" education and were a waste of money for my parents. Public schools have there "issues" but I learned far more from my teachers and classmates... What is with the thumbs down people... stop being lame... Have you been home schooled and attended both a private and a public school??? If not then how do you know which schooling technique is best? Stop being lame! As far as having opportunities to meet new people with home schooling via 4H, youth groups, homeschool skates and tennis and stuff.... kids do that kind of stuff when they are regular classrooms in private and public schools... So I just checked out the kinds of questions you answer here on yahoo answers... they are all about being homeschooled and christianity... cause you live in a flippin bubble as the result of your homeschool. You don't feel comfortable answering other questions because you don't have life experience.
Answer by hamada
This mean to catch up with new technology and progress . Every one has their point of view .
Answer by Sacarawits P
i was homeschool all my life. I have certaintly experienced the 'real world' as lot more than my fellow peers who have gone to school. i got a job as soon as i was 14 and excelled. being at home rather than stuck in a class room with a bunch of other kids and being restricted to act my age, i would often get the opportunity to go to the art gallery, museum, exhibitions ect. i was able to experience the 'adult' world and explore the 'real world' a lot more than school children did. If there is one thing a homeschooled child has its independence, to teach and motivate themselves to study rather than relying on other children and teachers. This also allows the child to grow as a person, allowing there own opinons and those they see around them to influence there view rather than that of their peers. Im now studying health sciences at university, have a job and am moving into my own place within the year:) cheers:)
Answer by BraxOwl
Apparently, the people who use this line feel that in order to be properly prepared for the real world a child needs to spend 7 hours a day locked in a classroom with 29 other people that happened to be born the same year they were. Part of this important socialization is being told you are NOT there to socialize, although apparently it is, in the belief of the people who use that phrase, the only place you can go to socialize. There are many other aspects of this necessary preparation, and they are trying to assert that by homeschooling our children are missing out on that. I agree. (Insert sarcasm here). Public school is a reflection of the real world. (End sarcasm). Actually, I believe that my homeschooled children are LIVING IN the real world, and are better prepared for it. You are right-the whole world is their classroom. But those that are subjected to public school can not fathom that they are missing out on anything.
Answer by Janis B
Preparing for the real world means that public school is preparing children to live in rest homes. When they get old and unable to care for themselves they will remember the days of their youth when they were taught to be on a schedule and to be uniform in their habits and behavior. They will know how to get along with sharing space, waiting their turn, and raising their hand (pressing the call light) for attention. I am offended when anti-home school people say that home schoolers are not prepared for the real world.
Answer by Proud Army Wife!
It's just a more polite way of saying that homeschooled children have no social skills and no interaction skills! Don't you get sick of hearing it???
Answer by glurpy
It just hit me how funny that phrase is: it actually admits to school not being the real world!!! We must have spent so many years in school being told that we were being prepared for the real world that we've come to just accept that school is not the real world and you need those 12/13 years of preparation to be able to deal with the real world (aka, adult life). It also means that people just assume that ages 6-18 are not spent in the real world and that school must be the place to prepare for this future real world experience because that's what they've been told all their lives (they're in school to prepare themselves for the real/adult world). It's a shame they don't realize how much the real world isn't some future time to live, but here and now and all around us. As I've said more than once, there's too much life to live for a child to be stuck in a desk most of the day!
Answer by busymom
Good question, as I see it they may mean preparing them for the work force, and becoming independent adults. As home schoolers our children receive academics combined with living daily life without being in an artificial environment (schools) that tries to mimic real life. Since our children have the opportunity to participate in every part of life from shopping to learning how a household runs daily, go to work with, or shadow a parent at work, and help with a home based or small business. They can participate in volunteer activities that are done during the day rather than only those open to after school hours. Most finish a high school program in about 24 months, they may use the traditional 4 years if they work, or have many outside activities. We can go on for a while, but you get the idea, They are much more self directed, independent, and prepared since they have the opportunity to practice what they learn. Edit, for sarah may. For one I do have experience with public, and private schools before going to home schooling full time. Trust me we disagree; my husband has a Masters in Education as well, home schooling is the better choice for many. Just in recent weeks several employers have contacted us, and asked if we would place job announcements on our site, because they preferred home schooled teens/young adult because they have found them to be more reliable, and competent independent workers. So much for the argument of being not being properly prepared, or living in a "bubble".
Answer by lilpinktv95
Teaching students the skills they need to live on their own.Like jobs and bills and mortgage
Answer by Athée (moonunit)
What they mean is this: the real world is full of money and power hungry people. It is about materialism and every man for himself. It is about haves and have-nots, about givers and takers, bullies and the bullied. If a child is not immersed in it early enough, he/she will not survive. Homeschooled kids fortunately do not often get immersed in that version of the world, whereas school kids do, and very early on. Homeschooled kids are indeed in the real world, everyday, and they see, as we do, that it does not need to be like we are trained to think it is. How can we ever make the world a better place if we simply follow along with the crowd? :)
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